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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://commonsenserepublican.com/older-people-become-more-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you are omitting is how, as a nation, we are gradually becoming more liberal. Yes, the tides of liberal vs. conservative do ebb and flow, but the overall trajectory is towards a more liberal society. There is no evidence that the US may shift back to a society that does not allow women to vote, for example. Movement towards a freer, fairer society may be difficult for people who dislike change, but most eventually accept it and some even come to think of it as good.

An older person may think they have become more conservative, but they are in fact comparing how conservative they currently are to how conservative everyone else is at that moment. They are not comparing how conservative they are now to how conservative they were 20, 30, 40 years earlier. People are terrible at remembering such things, because we see ourselves through the lens of who we are now, in the context of the society we live in now. 

As an aside, saying that I lack the wisdom to understand your point is pretty insulting, and doesn&#039;t make your argument any more valid. In fact, you said several insulting things. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you are omitting is how, as a nation, we are gradually becoming more liberal. Yes, the tides of liberal vs. conservative do ebb and flow, but the overall trajectory is towards a more liberal society. There is no evidence that the US may shift back to a society that does not allow women to vote, for example. Movement towards a freer, fairer society may be difficult for people who dislike change, but most eventually accept it and some even come to think of it as good.</p>
<p>An older person may think they have become more conservative, but they are in fact comparing how conservative they currently are to how conservative everyone else is at that moment. They are not comparing how conservative they are now to how conservative they were 20, 30, 40 years earlier. People are terrible at remembering such things, because we see ourselves through the lens of who we are now, in the context of the society we live in now. </p>
<p>As an aside, saying that I lack the wisdom to understand your point is pretty insulting, and doesn&#8217;t make your argument any more valid. In fact, you said several insulting things. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Republican</title>
		<link>http://commonsenserepublican.com/older-people-become-more-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel,

Yes, I did in fact read the article.

The article states very clearly:

&quot;the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages&quot;

If you do not test the same individual at different periods over their lifetime, how else could you possibly measure these results accurately?  This study was not conducted under true scientific standards.  Had it been done that way it most certainly would have proven my point.

Let&#039;s think of it another way.  Assuming young voters are more liberal and people became more liberal as they got older, why wouldn&#039;t the liberals have control over the House, the Senate and the Presidency all the time?

The fact that they are not in control every year also helps support the theory that people become more conservative.

For my theory not to be true, you would have to assume one of these two things:

1) that young voters are more conservative (which is BS if you look at any College campus or ask young people who skipped college who they support)

2) that nearly equal numbers of voters become more conservative as ones who become more liberal and vice versa

It is also possible to see flaws in the test unless samples are taken frequently and well controlled over an entire lifetime. Many people&#039;s political opinions sway one way or the other over their lifetime.

Therefore, depending on current events, a person may claim to be more conservative or more liberal.

Had you asked people this question in October or November 2001, they would have said they were more conservative.  Remember how the country felt?  Maybe you aren&#039;t old enough.  If you asked them the same question near the end of George Bush 43&#039;s Presidency, they would have claimed to be more liberal.

Oh wait, that study was published in 2007.......Hmmmmmm.......

Don&#039;t be so naive as to think that these kinds of studies aren&#039;t produced and manipulated for one political persuasion or the other.  Studies are not proof of anything in many cases.  They are just one person&#039;s opinion based on their own research.  You probably think that everything you hear on NPR radio is unbiased also.

Let me conduct my own study right now.......

Mom... Are you more conservative than you were when you were younger?.... Yes son.

Dad... Are you more conservative than you were when you were younger?.... Yes son.

Are you guys really telling me the truth?.........Yes son.

There you have it.  Definitive proof from a controlled study that 100% of people in this study agreed that people do in fact become more conservative as they get older.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I feel better knowing that my theory has now been definitively proven.

You obviously lack the wisdom to understand the point I made.  When you get older, (aka grow up) you will realize &quot;Hey, that guy was right&quot;  

It is in fact common sense and common knowledge that people get more conservative as they get older.  You probably think a pot of cold water comes to a boil faster than a pot of hot water too.  Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel,</p>
<p>Yes, I did in fact read the article.</p>
<p>The article states very clearly:</p>
<p>&#8220;the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages&#8221;</p>
<p>If you do not test the same individual at different periods over their lifetime, how else could you possibly measure these results accurately?  This study was not conducted under true scientific standards.  Had it been done that way it most certainly would have proven my point.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think of it another way.  Assuming young voters are more liberal and people became more liberal as they got older, why wouldn&#8217;t the liberals have control over the House, the Senate and the Presidency all the time?</p>
<p>The fact that they are not in control every year also helps support the theory that people become more conservative.</p>
<p>For my theory not to be true, you would have to assume one of these two things:</p>
<p>1) that young voters are more conservative (which is BS if you look at any College campus or ask young people who skipped college who they support)</p>
<p>2) that nearly equal numbers of voters become more conservative as ones who become more liberal and vice versa</p>
<p>It is also possible to see flaws in the test unless samples are taken frequently and well controlled over an entire lifetime. Many people&#8217;s political opinions sway one way or the other over their lifetime.</p>
<p>Therefore, depending on current events, a person may claim to be more conservative or more liberal.</p>
<p>Had you asked people this question in October or November 2001, they would have said they were more conservative.  Remember how the country felt?  Maybe you aren&#8217;t old enough.  If you asked them the same question near the end of George Bush 43&#8242;s Presidency, they would have claimed to be more liberal.</p>
<p>Oh wait, that study was published in 2007&#8230;&#8230;.Hmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be so naive as to think that these kinds of studies aren&#8217;t produced and manipulated for one political persuasion or the other.  Studies are not proof of anything in many cases.  They are just one person&#8217;s opinion based on their own research.  You probably think that everything you hear on NPR radio is unbiased also.</p>
<p>Let me conduct my own study right now&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mom&#8230; Are you more conservative than you were when you were younger?&#8230;. Yes son.</p>
<p>Dad&#8230; Are you more conservative than you were when you were younger?&#8230;. Yes son.</p>
<p>Are you guys really telling me the truth?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Yes son.</p>
<p>There you have it.  Definitive proof from a controlled study that 100% of people in this study agreed that people do in fact become more conservative as they get older.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing that up.  I feel better knowing that my theory has now been definitively proven.</p>
<p>You obviously lack the wisdom to understand the point I made.  When you get older, (aka grow up) you will realize &#8220;Hey, that guy was right&#8221;  </p>
<p>It is in fact common sense and common knowledge that people get more conservative as they get older.  You probably think a pot of cold water comes to a boil faster than a pot of hot water too.  Genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://commonsenserepublican.com/older-people-become-more-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you even read the article Todd posted? Sounds like you decided to skip it -- perhaps because it directly contradicts your views and because it is based on actual research, not assumption. What is so &quot;common sense&quot; about refusing to read it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you even read the article Todd posted? Sounds like you decided to skip it &#8212; perhaps because it directly contradicts your views and because it is based on actual research, not assumption. What is so &#8220;common sense&#8221; about refusing to read it?</p>
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		<title>By: kirkussent</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirkussent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they are just tighter with their money because they are on a fixed income. That&#039;s why they are more conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they are just tighter with their money because they are on a fixed income. That&#8217;s why they are more conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold,

Agreed, we have improved in many ways since then.



Todd,

This is called common sense republican for a reason.  If you had any common sense at all, you would realize that people do in fact become more conservative as they grow older.  It is called wisdom.


Sarah,


Thanks for the laugh and yes you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold,</p>
<p>Agreed, we have improved in many ways since then.</p>
<p>Todd,</p>
<p>This is called common sense republican for a reason.  If you had any common sense at all, you would realize that people do in fact become more conservative as they grow older.  It is called wisdom.</p>
<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh and yes you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://commonsenserepublican.com/older-people-become-more-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in becoming a Republican but I&#039;m a black atheist and I&#039;m dating a Jew- can I still be in the Conservative club?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in becoming a Republican but I&#8217;m a black atheist and I&#8217;m dating a Jew- can I still be in the Conservative club?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Goglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Goglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What utter and complete nonsense. Here is the difference between liberals and conservatives- conservatives like you blindly accepted received knowledge without ever bothering to ask if its true. Only a conservative would write such an article without even bothering to do a modicum of research to see if there predetermined beliefs have any hard evidence to back them up. 

Guess what- people don&#039;t become more conservative as they age:
http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-seniors.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What utter and complete nonsense. Here is the difference between liberals and conservatives- conservatives like you blindly accepted received knowledge without ever bothering to ask if its true. Only a conservative would write such an article without even bothering to do a modicum of research to see if there predetermined beliefs have any hard evidence to back them up. </p>
<p>Guess what- people don&#8217;t become more conservative as they age:<br />
<a href="http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-seniors.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-seniors.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not deify them like some do Reagan, I agree. They lynched and segregated and are flawed human beings. Their morality was impressive...but would you really want to wind back the clock to &lt; 1950s warts and all? Would most (even conservative women) want this? 

America was not a democracy until 1968 lets not forget it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not deify them like some do Reagan, I agree. They lynched and segregated and are flawed human beings. Their morality was impressive&#8230;but would you really want to wind back the clock to &lt; 1950s warts and all? Would most (even conservative women) want this? </p>
<p>America was not a democracy until 1968 lets not forget it</p>
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